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either. i'm pretty sure. >> oh, good. that makes me feel good. >> sean: if i'm wrong, i will correct that for the left wing media. >> thank you. >> sean: the news continues. let not your heart be troubled. greta goes "on the record." we'll see you tomorrow night. >> greta: tonight in just 23 hours a debate that could change everything. will governor mitt romney add to his momentum or will president obama stop him in his tracks? >> well, who says debates don't matter? there were 60 polls in the last week in 27 states. if you look at the 30-day map, there were three status changes all of them benefiting romney. >> who did he blame for his bad debate? oh, blames john kerry. blames bush for the bad economy, kerry for the bad debate. read the trip. you'll see that biden won it. >> i think he was told to get in
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there, make some commotion, because he had ground to make up for. that's just a fact. i think if you're looking for the vice president to try to save the day, there's a problem. >> if obama has a performance like he had a couple weeks ago, i don't believe it's possible for him to win the election. i don't know how he can possibly have another performance like that and expect to win. how could anybody be so stupid to vote for him if he performs like that again? >> we're moving rapidly to the second and third act to find out how this plays out. the president has to be on his game in the next debat debate ot could slide even more for him. >> even if he changes his style, whatever political tactic the president settles on, he can't change his record and can't change his policies. the wind is at governor romney's back, you can see it on the
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trail, in the debate. >> the reality of the race on the ground is we're ahead. it's narrower than before the last debate, but we feel good about where we are, have a great ground game going, a great debate on tuesday. we expect mitt romney to have a great debate as well. he's a great salesman, and he's very, very good at it. >> these debates are giving us the ability to cut through clutter and give people a clear choice. that's what we're offering. >> greta: the race is razor-sharp close. mitches at stakmuch is at stakeh candidates as they take to the stage tomorrow night for debate two. newt gingrich joins us. could the debate be as critical as i've just suggested? >> it could be. my gillmy guess is the presidend be somewhat better than last
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time. my gels is romney will be as good as last time, because he's a very trained, very thoughtful person who gets where he's at. tomorrow night will either be a tie or where a slight romney advantage on top what happened. that will carry the race on for one more oweek. if obama comes in, against my expectations, is as bad as he was notice first debate, this is over. i mean, he will not recover from two consecutive disasters. >> greta: how could he have it as bad as last time? >> well, falls the facts are moving against him. i describe this race right now, the problem for obama is five words -- unemployment, banghazi, and big bird, adding up to a hard sell for him. banghazi gets worlds and worldse and worse, the lies get deeper in. the vice presidential debate,
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biden lied about banghazi. unemployment stays bad. one of the reasons unemployment looked better for one week was that california hadn't filed 33,000 jobs, which is truly weird. then you look at gasoline prices. california was i think, peaked aat $5.87 a gal last week. anweek. >> greta: the strategy since the last campaign largely has been to criticize governor romney, saying he's a liar. i suspect tomorrow the president 8 come out -- not going to say he's a liar, but do everything to make that the message to the american people. can he do that without looking like a bully or petty himself? >> well, i don't think obama
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will look like a bully, because i think romney can stand up to him. i don't think he has that potential. the challenge he has is that -- essentially the obama case has degenerated to, yes, the president is inadequate, but romney would be worse. that's the heart of his basic message. romney can say, you know, the american people deserve to know the truth about banghazi, what happened? why did you send the u.n. ambassador out to five different shows to say something that was false? and then he's been on campaign trail being that direct. romney can say the price of gasoline is too high. obama has to face the fact if you're an average everyday american, a truck drive driver,u buy things at the grocery store, the prices are too high. he can't get above 5 50%.
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if you're the incumbent president and can't get above 50%, you have a big problem three weeks out. >> greta: you said the unemployment rate has gone down from 8.1% to 7.8%. california was late to report. he has the fact that he'll say he saved the auto industry. the unemployment rate in ohio is doing pro foundly betters than, for instance, the state of nevada. he goes back to the fact that he inherited a mess. nobody denials that. he says, it takes a while to get out of the mess, but that will be his argument tomorrow night. >> people will have to look say and do i think four more years of romney will be better than four years of obama? the profiles of gasoline has
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gone up $2 a gallon since he became president. the fact is that banghazi is ultimaterly inexplicable, and that the answers they've given are false and misleading. now we have him hiding behind hillary clinton. he's hiding behind john kerry on the first debate. highed will behind george bush on the economy. going to raise las vegas to raise money immediately after an american ambassador is kid kill, at what point does will than obama take responsibility? >> greta: the polls are incredibly close. >> i think part of it is frankly the weakness of the republican party in reaching out to a wide range of minority grooms. african americans are dramatically more conservative than their vote for obama, and
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part of that is the republican party's fault. the elite media has worked overtime to prop up obama over and over and over again. that's why you see a little bit of an argument about candy crowley's role tomorrow night, whether or not you ought to follow the rules in only having a town hall meeting, not having the moderator try to define things. part of its is obama is annual attractive personal. this is a will pleasant person with a nice family, with a good smile, that people really wanted to have succeed. i mean, i think a lot of americans were very proud to have elected an african american president, thought that it said something about the nature of america, that we are in fact a truly inclusive country, and wanted him to succeed. i think it hurts them to say, i just can't vote for you again. >> greta: tonight news out of peru, secretary of state hillary clinton traveling, the number of interviews with different news organizations, and she said
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essentially -- well, she didn't say essentially, but did say the buck stops with her, meaning with her about what happened in banghazi. you laugh? >> two levels. first of all, the buck stops with the president, that was harry truman's line, and she lost the nomination. she's not president. >> greta: meaning president obama should be giving that line? >> it is the president's line. secondly, you have to admire the clintons. bill and hillary clinton have done newedone more than to helpt barack obama than barack obama has. the turning point in this election was bill clinton's speech. >> greta: why is he doing that? if you go back to '08 it was a rather nasty contest between them. clinton felt he was being called a ever racist. >> falls bill clinton is the best political performer of ouring generation.
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something clicks in and takes over when he gets on the field, like a great quarterback, like watching robert griffin iii regional for 7runfor a touchdowt until redskins history, in fact nfl history. when bill clinton gets on the stage, he is just remarkable. >> greta: what about hill his w, though? will. >> she's a team player. she's been with obama for four years. she's going to take a bullet for the team. what is disgraceful is the degree to which the president and vice president are prepared to be dishonest with the american people and hide. i think tomorrow night be interest to watch. the president has a month of dishonesty to answer for in banghazi. for a solid month he's said things that are not true. the will vice president has said things that are not true.
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>> greta: and meanwhile calling romney a liar. that's the irony of it. >> it's the will nature of the business who say, i don't know why you're lying about it's being daytime when we all know it's nighttime, even if you say it in the middle of the day. you know, i think that's just -- they're very good at this, but i think in the end facts matter. the facts of unemployment markets the facts of gasoline prices matter, the facts of banghazi matter, and the facts of big bird markets an matter. >> greta: should president obama have addressed the nation on what happened in banghazi in all the sort of -- i mean, the sort of crazy story about the protests and volcanoes that went only? >> he went to the united nations and i think he mentions the video six times in his speech to
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the united nations. this is a calculated, methodical act of dishonestliy. president obama cannot bring himself to tell the truth about radical sale islam, even when is calling americans. >> greta: why? >> you have to ask him why. >> greta: he doesn't come here. >> that's a psychological question. read his cairo speech, read what he said when court ra koran wasg turned, about this video, the fort hood killing. the obama administration has never will admitted once that was an act of radical islamism. >> greta: why? >> because their motto is killing osama bin laden ended the game. it's a mistake that george w.
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bush made when he was on the aircraft carrier with mission accomplished. this was a deeper, harder war, that will go on for maybe 50, 70 years. people out there hate us, they want to destroy us. we can he say we're going to give up the war. that's fine. the war may not give us up. i think obama doesn't want to deal with that. hills friends on the left can't bring themselves to even talk about it. and the result is they try to cut deals with the organization of islamic cooperation, which is basically dedicated to islamic supremacy. >> greta: you debated governor romney. people say, quote, he's a good debater. i don't know what that means. what do you expect out of him tomorrow night? usually whoever wins is considered a good debater. >> i debated mitt a lot. i think monthlies of thi thinkss
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aggressive and clear with obama as newt, he'll win. we didn't expect that obama wouldn't show up. if you go back and look at that debate, the lack of energy, the lack of focus and preparation on obama's part was -- >> greta: he's perfectly capable of doing good on his feet, being a strong advocate. what happened to him? >> i think he spent four years in the cocoon of the white house. he spent four years with people slavishly telling him you're doing great, you're brilliant, magnificent, that last speech was so fabulous. john kerry i think who is a good debater, incredibl nobody brokee shell and said you're in danger of having somebody quick your
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tail. mitt romney went to harvard business school and law school in parallel at the same time. this is a smart, will disciplined person who wants to be president. you would the sense, if you want to make him president again, he'll be glad to serve, but it's not a big deal. his closing was verged on path those. they say, it's your turn, and he kind of goes, well, you know, i said four years ago i wouldn't perfect, and governor romney would agree i haven't been perfect. there are a lot of things i'd like to do if you'd like me to do them. look at the body language, the tone, the lack of energy in that closing statement. he knows he's been would not be anbeaten andget off stage.
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growing president obama better brace himself. whether he wants to talk about it or not, during tomorrow night's town hall debate, people will be able to ask him about libya. and tay mayor rudy giuliani accusing the white house of a coverup. good evening, mr. mayor. >> good evening, greta. how are you? >> greta: very good. any doubt in your mind there's a cover-up? >> there's about five conflicting statements about what happened. we have very clear evidence now that the white house knew very early on that there was no protest proceeding this terrorist attack, so there would be absolutely no reason to attribute this to any kind of protest over this, you know, horrible muhammad movie.
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by the time ambassador rice appeared on the four or five television shows, i think it was september 15th already, it was quite clear the at that point this was a trillion terrorist a, planned, not some kind of response to some kind of film they were offended by, and they went ahead and outright misrepresented by saying it's a spontaneous attack. president appeared before the united nations and six times apologized for a movie that he didn't prosecutors he had nothing to do with, never talked about the facts that he seems to have known by then. just as late as last week we have vice president biden saying that less white house neve nevew there were requests for more security. if they never knew, why didn't they know? is information of this magnitude not getting to the president any longer? maybe it's because he doesn't have national security briefings like other presidents, i don't know, but he's sure not paying
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attention. >> greta: a letter dated today from senator lendssy graham to the president of the united states, an, pointing out there e attacks only that counsels student lat in which an i.eied ripped a hole big enough for 30 men to go through. he's quiz the president if he even knew anything about it. >> it's outrageous. it was a month later. the consulates is attacked only september 11th. attacked twice before, one time in april, one time in june. if the president knew about it, what did he do about it? if he didn't know about it, that may be more serious. why didn't he know about it? what the heck is wrong with the administration if he's not informed about attacks on the
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consulate. apparently we didn't do a good job of figuring out what happened after gadhafi. >> greta: hillary clinton says she takes full responsibility, and says the buck stops here, meaning with her, the secretary of state. >> that's convenient to do that, but the buck stops with the president of the united states. the president is supposed to get national security briefings every single day. we know this president skipped -- i don't know -- half of them. because we almost don't have a president. we have a campaigner in key. it would be startlings those if those attacks were not brought up. two bombings in the space of about three months and it's doesn't come to the attention of the president of the united states? that would give us great concern if the president is living in a la-la land.
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>> greta: why do you think these handling it as he is? you know, the first thing -- i mean, it's rather bizarre. we haven't heard from him, he hasn't spoken to the nation. he's said a number of times the video the reason for the protests. they held on to that story for a long, ton it was on our propertn 9/11. >> if it's isn't a cover-up, they're acting like it is one. every single piece of information they put out turns out to be false. there's all kinds of information they withheld, including this information about two prior attacks. i don't think you would ever have known about the ambassador's concern if cnn didn't find the diary. the white house accused the reporter of stealing the diary. the diary should have been --
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they should have disclosed this to the american people when it happened. i mean, that's the reason why, if it isn't a cover-up, they certainly are creating the impression there's a cover-up. believe me, if this were a republican administration, what i just said would be on the front page of the "new york times." >> greta: i was looking to see how "the new york times" was handling this issue, and there's nothing on the front page of the "new york times" about this. >> derek jeter's injury is on the front page of the "new york times," which concerns me, because he's my hero, but i do think this is maybe more significant, maybe more significant than other stories they had on there, including some situation in a small town, mayor in a small town. the front page is incredible. whether you're a republican or you're a democrat, a liberal or conservatives, when the white house engages in this kind of misbehavior for reasons that yet
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aren't apparent, where is the press? what kind of press do we have? it's basically you, cnn, and cbs. the rest of it, i mean instead they're attacking republicans because, you know, they cul cute security budget for counselors, even though the state department official testified that there were no budget considerations in all, at all, in their refusal to give extra security. >> greta: maybe we'll find out something tomorrow night because the people will defeat ask get k questions. >> greta: coming up, pictures inside osama bin laden's compound. finally you find out did torture play any role? and what did vice president biden tell president obama? that's all next. plus, democrats might want to change the war on women theme. new polls show that the women vote is slipping away from president obama.
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world know if you do harm to america, we will track you to the gates of hell if need be. >> greta: vice president joe biden becoming the biggest cheerleader for the raid that killed osama bin laden. something you didn't didn't know, the vice president opposed the mission. in fact, he was the only advisor that told the president not to go ahead with the manual. plan. the author of "the finish: the killing of osama bin laden" joins. it's absolutely fascinating. i want to go first to the issue of about what you write about in the book. you write about vice president biden. it says he believed if the effort failed, obama would a lot his chance tlosehills chance fo.
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that is so profound it's almost disturbing. who told you that? >> that's based on my interviews with a lot of the people involved in that meeting, and, you know, he solicited advice from everyone around the table. i think that in a way biden of all the people in the room would be the one most likely to speak to the potential, political consequences, of the raid going wrong. the secretary of defense is going to talk about the military complications. the secretary of state is going to talk about the difficulties of dealing with pakistan afterwards, whether it's a success or failure. joe biden has been around washington a long time. i'm sure he remembers the failed rescue mission to iran, which probably did more than any one thing to ruin carter's chance of having a second term. so he weighed in for more caution. he said, i think we should wait, mr. president, until we have more information to make sure
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that bin laden is there, and his advice was not heeded. >> greta: you mentioned the carter incident. correct me if i'm wrong, that secretary gates was around, wanted to send in the navy seals. >> at that meeting he advised an aerial attack which involved >> pentagon -- his office at the pentagon, and will he was corralled in his office, saying, boxer we think you're wrong. they talked him out of his points and hpointof view, and he
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mind. >> greta: vice president biden said it was the highest priority. at anytime was this not the highest priority to get abdominal? >> i do think for the president of the united states, for president bush, with two wars in particular with the iraq war as large a preoccupation as it became, and coupled with the fact that they had completely lost track of bin laden, so they didn't have anything to work with, in that sense i think the effort to target bin laden will receded within the white house as a top priority. in fact, you'll recall, greta, that the bush white house for the most part claimed that he had become irrelevant, that he was probably up in the -- a cave somewhere in the tribal areas of pakistan. i do think that there's some
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truth to president obama insisting on making this a top priority. having schedul said that, i dont believe it was anything but a huge priority with the cia. >> greta: the very controversial issue o of torture, does that he any connection of getting osama bin laden? >> it does. when you trace the trail back, some detainees were interrogated, it's not as simple as something they leaned on somebody and he coughed up a vital piece of information, but it is certainly true that the key interviews with te detainee, some were notorious for coercive
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tactics. there's no way that you can claim that the information that led them to torture, or coercive sessions. >> greta: i urge the viewers to get this book, because it's absolutely every bit -- i like the part that they had to measure whether or not they had osama bin laden. they had to have a navy seal who was 6'0" tall to lie next to him to try to measure. great book. i look forward to your next one. thank you, mark. >> thank you. >> greta: coming up, is. >> a war on women? female voters are answering that question. what are they saying in our political panel is here next. and move over, obama girl. paul ryan girl is the latest internet sensation. internet sensation. it's music video you have with the spark cash card from capital one,
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>> live from america's news headquarters, i'm aneat ravogel. a pakistani girl, shot in the head by the taliban is now in a london hospital. 14-year-old mala la was flown to england from pakistan on monday. a hospital there saying she has a chance at make egg good recovery. the teenager was shot a week ago in retaliation for promoting the education of girls. the taliban are threatening to target her again because they claim she hasadrocated western thinking. felix baumgartner's super-sonic sky dive broke three record, the first to break the sound barrier without the use of a jet or spacecraft. he made the highest manned balloon flight and free-fall from the highest altitude, more than 128,000 feet above ground.
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he says he plans to settle down and fly helicopters on mountain rescue and fire-fighting sessions. their political muscle in the swing states. president obama and governor romney both going all out to been the women's vote. according to a new "usa today" gallup poll governor romney tiles the president among likely female voters in 12 swing states. what happened to the war on women? did it eve ever exist? the our political panel joins. rick, what happened to war on women? does it still exist? >> cease-fire, a truce. something has happened. this would be a stunning development. if the election results are close to this, mitt romney will win walk we'll be right back. i havwalking away. this would be a huge trend over
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the last couple election cycles. women are giving mitt romney another look. not just women voter, but all of course. it's reset the race, changed the psychology of the race, undoomed the door for mitt romney. for him to open the second debate that he can challenge for women like this puts him in a better position than a week or 10 days ago "o'reill ago. >> greta: a.b., what do you think? >> what i think is interesting there's in the "usa today"/gallup poll that puts romney so well in the lead in many places, it shows that women's health issues, mainly contraception and abortion is a
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much higher priority than women voters i thought it would be. the obama campaign is paying close to this. they think it's a wedge that can save them in colorado and swing states where they've had success with this in paths. past. they'll push this issue starting tomorrow night because they think that's a way to bring them back around to the obama camp. >> greta: secretary clinton is saying full responsibility. this notice says if the president was truly not aware of this rising threat level in banghazi, then we've lost confidence in his national security team whose responsibility is to keep the president informed. if the president wasn't aware of these earlier attacks in banghazi he bears full responsibility foin security failures that curled. the security of americans serving our nation everywhere is ultimately the job of the commander in chief the buck
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stops there. >> they're not going to stop until they hear something from the president himself. this is in response to hillary clinton saying she takes responsibility for what happened in banghazi. these three influential republican senators are saying, no, not just that the president was responsible for the security atmosphere, security accommodations in libya, but also he's responsible for the statements that he himself, secretary of state, u.n. ambassador made for several days after this attack blaming it completely on the anti-muslim video and not on as a preplanned al-qaeda attack. >> greta: they say the attack was the result of a spontaneous demonstration triggered by hateful video long after it became clear that the cause was a terrorist attack. >> they're not giving to give up on it. the attack was tuesday night washington time, and susan rice, u.n. ambassador, was all than
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the sunday shows saying this. we now know the administration knew very well it was a preplanned terrorist attack. there was no demonstration. >> greta: they don't like the fact that secretary of state hillary clinton is saying the buck stops with her, the president is not. we'll take a quick break. strayed, tomorrow night's presidential debate number two, both candidates know they're playing with political fire and one will get
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>> greta: debate expectations are changing big time. it could be good news for governor romney. before the first debate independent voters thought president obama would be the debate winner, that he would win by a margin 44% to 28%. that shus sure didn't happen. as for second debate, independents expect governor romney to be a big winner, 42% to 31 pearls. a.b., what do you think? >> romney did a terrific job on october 3rd. i don't think he's going to implode. i think the onus is on president obama to change the perception and the narrative from his failure that night. i think that's a lot of
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pressure. i think probable i president bus expected to be aggressive, to throw romney off. what he really needs to do is what romney does, is to enthusiastically sell himself. if you can get a few jobs in, great, but in that setting he needs to look like he wants the job. >> all the angst has shifted to the other side. you don't want to be judged only the front end as the person likely to been. if you don't win the championship that night, you're judged to be a failure. president obama has to have a big night. his aides have telegraphed he'll be more aggressive, showing he wants it a lot more than the first debate. that's difficult with this format. they won't be addressing each other, addressing questions posed by the michael jordan mod. you don't want to be belittling our demeaning to the person who
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asked the question. >> they sent out a big memo this morning going through all of these statements, word by word, that romney had made in the first debates, followed by long answers that the president should have given. i mean, it was 2800 words, a long memo they went through. >> greta: i got that long memo. i thought, oh, brother, i've got enough to do today. >> they're in would have, could have, should have mode. it's basically here's what i should have said. i expect that's what the president will say tomorrow night. >> the certainly the element of do-overs in any of the attacks. if big bird gets mentioned again, he'll know exactly what to say this time. i think what makes this unpredictable, the questions will be totally 50ly different. neither candidate wants to retread the ground they went over two weeks ago. they need new areas of attack.
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>> greta: 11:00 is almost here. flash studio lights. it's time to your last call. vice president joe biden versus congressman paul ryan. their one chance to debate. here's "saturday night live's" take on the face-off. >> first of all, i want to thank the college for hosting us this evening. >> oh, boy, here we go. oh, man. >> four years ago president obama made a promise. >> that he would bring down unemployment below 6%. >> oh, this guy. i mean -- >> he said, but by the end his firm term he would cult the deficit in half. >> oh! >> he still has not put a single credible plan on the table on
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how to deal with the debt crisis. >> i'm sorry, mart that martha,s is a bunch of malarkey. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under duress to make up ground, but the american people would be better served -- >> you don't scare me, shark eyes. there's gym strong and there's old man strong, okay? you want to know my workout? will when the amtrak breaks down at my morning commute, i strip down to my tighty-whiteys, i push it to washington. >> greta: that is your last call. lights are blinking, and we're closing down shop. thanks for being with us tonight. we'll see you tomorrow night after the presidential day. join us at 10:30 p.m. eastern and again at midnight. get out your coffe